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Comments on: Do we need to be requiring more math/science in high school? https://UnhinderedByTalent.com/Phi/archives/2007/02/10/do-we-need-to-be-requiring-more-mathscience-in-high-school/ Not all battles are fought with a sword Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Phi https://UnhinderedByTalent.com/Phi/archives/2007/02/10/do-we-need-to-be-requiring-more-mathscience-in-high-school/comment-page-1/#comment-12147 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:10:00 +0000 http://UnhinderedByTalent.com/Phi/?p=458#comment-12147 Warning: Undefined array key "HTTP_REFERER" in /home/unhinder/www/www/Phi/wp-content/plugins/google-hilite.php on line 58

I think you hit on an important point here, namely that more bad math/science classes almost certainly won’t help the cause. I’d hate to see us use the paucity of wondrous math teachers as a reason not to require more math, however, as that’s a very disempowering position. It does help reinforce the point, however, that it’s a multi-front battle, and one can’t simple pronounce something (like No Child Left Behind) and walk away, assuming that all the rest will magically follow.

Our son was lucky and had pretty solid math and science in elementary school here. As his 7th grade year proceeds, however, It’s clear that things get less clear in the high school. It’ll be interesting to compare his year in Britain next year with what precedes and follows it here in Morris.

I also have some issues with the common “establishment” assumption that The Calculus is somehow the be-all and end-all. Calc is wonderful stuff, and is certainly a mighty powerful tool in many cases, but it’s not something many people are going to use day-to-day. I took buckets of calc in my day (math major and all that), and I almost never use it. Logic, stats, combinatorics I use all the time. Calc, not so much. But that’s probably another post for another day.

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By: Desert Donkey https://UnhinderedByTalent.com/Phi/archives/2007/02/10/do-we-need-to-be-requiring-more-mathscience-in-high-school/comment-page-1/#comment-12145 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:41:52 +0000 http://UnhinderedByTalent.com/Phi/?p=458#comment-12145 Warning: Undefined array key "HTTP_REFERER" in /home/unhinder/www/www/Phi/wp-content/plugins/google-hilite.php on line 58

… while making more math and science is tempting – I know I didnt take as much of either in high school as I should have – methinks that creating more relevant, attractive, math work would be a better route than more rote.

BTW, the problem starts in elementary schools, where math and science seem to be the weakest subject for many teachers (says a former substitute teacher).

I had an encounter at a drive up window the other day where three separate people couldnt understand that two $5.95 items do not total more than $13 … And two of these people were probably older than either you or I.

There is much work to do here, but that doesnt mean more Calculus and differential equations …

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