{"id":608,"date":"2007-07-29T15:34:43","date_gmt":"2007-07-29T20:34:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/UnhinderedByTalent.com\/Phi\/?p=608"},"modified":"2007-07-29T15:35:02","modified_gmt":"2007-07-29T20:35:02","slug":"high-school-math-teh-good","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/UnhinderedByTalent.com\/Phi\/archives\/2007\/07\/29\/high-school-math-teh-good\/","title":{"rendered":"High school math = Teh Good"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/nicmcphee\/103784837\/\" title=\"Photo Sharing\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/38\/103784837_fda1bffa76_m.jpg?resize=240%2C180\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" alt=\"How science is done\" align='right' hspace='10' vspace='10' data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2007\/07\/science_and_math_in_the_high_s.php\">Pharyngula has a nice discussion<\/a> of report looking at the impact of high school math and science classes on performance in university science courses.  The short version?  <em>Definitely<\/em> take math, as that improves performance in all the sciences in the study (biology, chemistry, and physics).  Taking science in high school tends to help performance in <em>that<\/em> science in college, but doesn&#8217;t help much in the other sciences.<\/p>\n<p>They don&#8217;t say anything about computing (but, sadly, most high schools don&#8217;t offer much in the way of meaningful computer <em>science<\/em> courses), but my experience suggests that much the same is true there:  A solid math background is a definite win.  Have some programming experience <em>can<\/em> help, but it can also get in the way if you end up needing to unlearn a lot.  And any advantage one has from prior programming experience tends to wash out within the first yer (sometimes the first semester), while some solid math background continues to be an advantage all through the major.<\/p>\n<p>The error bars are pretty huge, which isn&#8217;t entirely surprising given the variable quality of both instructor and student (both in high school and university).  It would be interesting to better understand what role the <em>quality<\/em> of the high school instruction plays in the correlations.  Does, for example, a <em>bad<\/em> science class actually have the potential to hurt you later on?<\/p>\nNo tag for this post.\n\t<h4>Related posts<\/h4>\n\t<ul class=\"st-related-posts\">\n\t<li>No related posts.<\/li>\n\t<\/ul>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pharyngula has a nice discussion of report looking at the impact of high school math and science classes on performance in university science courses. The short version? Definitely take math, as that improves performance in all the sciences in the study (biology, chemistry, and physics). Taking science in high school tends to help performance in &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/UnhinderedByTalent.com\/Phi\/archives\/2007\/07\/29\/high-school-math-teh-good\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;High school math = Teh Good&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0},"categories":[4,17,22,15],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p90sy-9O","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":451,"url":"https:\/\/UnhinderedByTalent.com\/Phi\/archives\/2007\/02\/08\/why-we-need-women-in-math-and-the-sciences\/","url_meta":{"origin":608,"position":0},"title":"Why we need women in math and the sciences","author":"Nic McPhee","date":"8 Feb 07","format":false,"excerpt":"I just got back from a very nice (if not wildly focussed) panel\/round table discussion on \"Women in math and science\" as part of Women's Week here at UMM. I won't try to summarize everything here, but it's certainly a major issue for us since the number of women in\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Computing&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Computing","link":"https:\/\/UnhinderedByTalent.com\/Phi\/archives\/category\/computing\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":458,"url":"https:\/\/UnhinderedByTalent.com\/Phi\/archives\/2007\/02\/10\/do-we-need-to-be-requiring-more-mathscience-in-high-school\/","url_meta":{"origin":608,"position":1},"title":"Do we need to be requiring more math\/science in high school?","author":"Nic McPhee","date":"10 Feb 07","format":false,"excerpt":"As I mentioned before, I took part in a panel discussion on women in science and math last week. One of the issues that came up in the discussion was the importance of requiring math and science courses, at least through high school, and perhaps into college. 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